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-If removal becomes impossible,
conviction becomes insensible.

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In one light, it certainly does
seem counterintuitive

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that an officer-holder
can elude Senate conviction

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by resignation
or expiration of term --

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an argument we heard made
by the managers.

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But this underscores
that impeachment was never meant

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to be the final forum
for American justice --

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never meant to be the final
forum for American justice.

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Impeachment, conviction,
and removal...

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are a specific
intra-governmental safety valve.

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It is not the criminal
justice system,

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where individual accountability
is the paramount goal.

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Indeed...

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Justice Story specifically
reminded that,

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while former officials
were not eligible

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for impeachment
or conviction, they were --

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and this is extremely
important --

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still liable to be
tried and punished

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in the ordinary
tribunals of justice.

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Put another way...

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in the language of today...
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President Trump is still liable
for everything he did

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while he was in office
as an ordinary citizen.

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Unless the statute
of limitations has run,

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still liable for everything
he did while he was in office.

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Didn't get away with anything --
yet.

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Yet.

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We have a criminal
justice system in this country.

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We have civil litigation.

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And former presidents are not
immune from being accountable

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by either one.